i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.
Yes Jook, it's a hateful religion, nothing "healthful" about it, all lovey dovey at the KH but God's gonna kill everyone who doesn't listen to the JW message. This is paranoia writ large.
Everyone dies-- but Jehovah's Witnesses die either completely deluded or secretly woken up to the fact that its a steaming load of BS. No Jehovah's Witness has ever died with any benefit from their false paradise promises.
It's a rip-off and delusion for the rank and file but just look how well fed the GB are!
the first thing i saw when i went in was the two video screens having the watchtower singers chorus doing a number.
the sound wasn't up enough to make out the song, but the video was grotesque.
the singers were swaying to the music, all independent of each other, no discipline, actually sloppy-looking.
Why is it that Jehovah's Witnesses are resolutely Phillistine and cramped in their sensibilities? I suppose if they sought to cultivate a more enlightened aesthetic they would feel they were being worldly.
I would have to take a ferry sick bag with me if I went to the meetings, enormous derrieres swaying to 'Kingdom' melodies and then ritual bunker indoctrination to scare the children into submission.
Today it's all about a shameless and dying doomsday cult in action. Bunker mentality only appears in a regime when the cult is in terminal decline.
for those that haven't seen them yet - and they don't seem to have been posted here yet - some might be interested in the following two charts:.
the histomap: four thousand years of world history - relative power of contemporary states, nations and empires.
a vertical chart showing relative world powers and events over 4,000 years, chart made in 1931. link to the full 2,097 x 9,554 3.68mb chart: http://imgur.com/r/infographics/xrrpg6p.
Pretty and quaint but completely misleading.
However if you believe in the Bible rather than scientific evidence, or you still live in Tennessee as it was in the 1920s these maps will supply plenty of ammunition for your confirmation bias.
Interesting too how whilst they are so out of date, they still conform extremely well to the vision of ostrich heads like JWs.
i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.
Oh please don't go Colin, we all want to follow you; show us the light Master, show us the true path!
now confirmed - fyi following my post yesterday here:.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6355488641908736/_post/6151316533411840.
it has now been confirmed via jw.org.
I agree with you Steve, clearly God quite blatantly does not rescue people from violence as this death shows, even those who claim to be doing work for him. The JW myth in fact is that god is not going to spare billions of people in a mass violent death orgy at Armageddon.
In reality God never does do anything at all, he never has and he never will.
However, we can commiserate with those like the family of this woman who have lost a loved one.
interesting observations i've noticed when visiting my uber elder cousin and his wife.
he just inherited a lovely home on the water on puget sound from his non jw dad who passed away earlier this year.
so they have spent many $$$ and months remodeling this house to their standards which are quite expensive tastes.
Yes, speaking to PIMOs I get the impression that the social club spirit is eclipsing the holy spirit.
The average JW is goes through the rituals for the sake of appearances 'cos that is what you have to do to be a member. In the main they are fed up with waiting for the ever fading paradise promise and calmly accept their own death like unbelievers.
The carrot has withered and gone mouldy so all the GB can do is give them the stick by way of "Do more!"
The new way of coping as a JW is to take it all with a pinch of salt! The gb will be furious when they realize what is actually going on in the minds of their sheep. They may have to admit defeat earlier than we think.
Whatever, it is another nail in the Watchtower coffin.
according to the "new light" the faithful slave class appeared after jesus came 1914 (rather 1918 he inspected the temple) and was bestowed with assigement to provide spiritual food.. there are a number of problems with this new concept:.
how did russel and co found out about certain unique teachings diffferent from mainstream christendom?.
option 1) apparently by himself, as there was no fds at his time.
Fisherman I am just so weary of quoting the scriptures as if they had any real meaning, they are useless for anything except as literary archetypes. There is no "true interpretation" of the Bible possible, it is a pointless exercise, a sisyphean task.
In this case (fds) the date of arrival of the Kingdom is a necessary piece of knowledge to see its application yet "no one knows the day or hour" ad infinitum... although Jesus said (or it is written that he said it, as it is unlikely that he existed) that the kingdom would come in the lifetime of those who lived with him. Mark 9;1
The scriptures as an inerrant collection of divine instructions must be the biggest scam of all time and one perpetuated by the Catholic Church in the fourth century at the behest of the Roman Empire.
according to the "new light" the faithful slave class appeared after jesus came 1914 (rather 1918 he inspected the temple) and was bestowed with assigement to provide spiritual food.. there are a number of problems with this new concept:.
how did russel and co found out about certain unique teachings diffferent from mainstream christendom?.
option 1) apparently by himself, as there was no fds at his time.
Fisherman," the concept is valid".
But does that mean that the Bible is actually truthful and we should believe it all and act on everything it teaches?
The fds parable would have been obvious to both the rich and to slaves that the slave's job is to work when the master is not present--and how pleased ("chuffed" is a good UK word) the slave would be to be found still working at the master's return. One of many everyday illustrations to sell the new bonkers idea of Christianity giving (mainly) the poor and uneducated the hope of immortality by worshipping Jesus.
Is it not obvious that the NT is the work of religious propagandists trying to convince and illustrate credibility for their partisan brand of the Christ story? You have to understand that the Christ story was known and told for centuries before Jesus appeared as the title figure. The Greeks called them Sophists, others; God-men, magicians or even conjurors.
according to the "new light" the faithful slave class appeared after jesus came 1914 (rather 1918 he inspected the temple) and was bestowed with assigement to provide spiritual food.. there are a number of problems with this new concept:.
how did russel and co found out about certain unique teachings diffferent from mainstream christendom?.
option 1) apparently by himself, as there was no fds at his time.
Phizzy, there is no such thing as new light, it is a total fiction (as you know!). The idea that 1914 or 1919 are of significance is a complete red herring from the real things which matter in life. They have not got the slightest significance unless you are an anally retentive JW imagining that what the Watchtower says actually comes from an almighty God somewhere out in the spirit world. The whole story, the faux tale of Big J and Satan are fairy stories to keep the ignorant JWs tightly under the cosh and in thrall to the gb. The FDS was merely an illustration referencing the rightness of Christian cults who enticed new members by supplying food for the tramps who came only for the grub.
Oh it's all such an unholy mess........utter rubbish in fact but repeated so many times that it almost, almost sounds like it could have real meaning ...........
on video "benefits of divine education" william samuelsson makes totally appalling comment.. starting from 3:05 he refers to "an effort" that was made in past to see how society's curriculum corresponds with normal - worldly - universities.. then he claims that following question was asked (to university representative) "how we in five months can teach the same that for them takes two years"?.
according to w samuelsson the representative of a university replied something like this: "your students are motivated, they have come to learn where as our students have been send to university by their parents and might have something else than learning in their mind".
this is to crystallize what he said.
"Divine education" is a fraud and a fantasy, just like the rest of JW broadcasting; fine sounding words for unintelligent people to gobble up without questioning them!
There is no concrete evidence on the table so to speak to examine and discuss the subject of God. (Except perhaps the curious faculty of the human brain to conjure up a spirit world and then infect others with the same delusion). What can ever be said about spirits or gods? There is nothing to say since they cannot be detected through the five senses.
Just ask a JW to define indoctrination, they can't do it because they only receive indoctrination.
Education means to be led out-- indoctrination means to be kept in.
Wakey wakey Jehovah's Witnesses!
